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This one is personal. I'm launching something I've wanted to do for a long time: a free monthly webinar series called Active Skin Longevity with Meder, and in this episode, I explain exactly why, and why education has been at the heart of my work for the last 30 years.

I share how I started as a massage educator in the early '90s, researching ingredients by hand in libraries long before the internet existed, and how teaching became the center of everything I do. I also talk honestly about what's gone wrong with skincare education (the white noise, the brand-led content, the sponsored conferences, the fear-based messaging), and why it's harder than ever to find education you can actually trust. I walk through the program itself: ten deep-dive sessions over a year, starting August 17th, 2026, covering consultation, daily routines, sensitivity, inflammation, pigmentation, wrinkles, circadian rhythm and more. It's free, independent, and open to everyone, beauticians, nurses, doctors, and curious skincare enthusiasts alike. And it's linked to a cause close to my heart in Ukraine. Come and learn with me.

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Meder Education: Active Skin Longevity — Free Monthly Webinars for Estheticians (from August 17th until May 202)


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Download FREE Meder Summer Skin Longevity SOP by Dr Tiina Meder

Meder Beauty Science Ukraine

City of Goodness - Ukraine’s largest shelter for children, women and animals

Forbes: 6 Cult Skincare Brands New York's Leading Estheticians Swear By

A new ten-item questionnaire for assessing sensitive skin: the Sensitive Scale-10 by Laurent Misery

Baumann Skin Types®

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The 12 Hallmarks That Shape Your Skin


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You want healthy glowing skin, but with all the products, trends, and conflicting advice, it's hard to know what actually works. I understand. I am Dr. Tina Meder, former cardiologist and specialist in the skincare development and cosmetic safety expert. I've spent years studying the science of skin. Welcome to Matter Beauty Podcast, where we uncover what really matters, break down the science, and give you real expert back skincare advice. Whether you're looking to achieve ready and healthy skin, curious about anti-aging, or want to understand what's really in your product, you are in the right place. Rooted in science and the truth about what your skin actually needs, we'll have in-depth conversations with leading dermatologists, medical experts, and skincare brand founders to bring you the latest innovation, evidence-based insights, and industry secrets that truly make a difference. We are so happy you are here. So let's go. Welcome to the Skin Relief Win podcast, and I am Dr. Tina Meder. Today I want to talk about something that matters to me far beyond protocols, skincare products, and beyond trends. Actually, I am launching the new online education project, a free monthly webinar series which I called Active Skin Longevity, this matter. And I want to explain why I'm doing this now and why education has been at the heart of my work since I don't remember when, from the mid-90s for the last 30 years. If you work as a beautician, aesthetician, any kind of skin practitioner, aesthetic nurse, or if you're a serious skincare enthusiast, you are very welcome to my new education program, to our series webinar. And very probably you already know that now we have more information than ever. But it feels harder and harder to find education which you can actually trust. And my goal with this episode is simple. I will share my story with professional education. I will explain why I love it, and I will talk honestly about what changed in our industry, especially in the education field. And I will try to explain how my new program can help you in your practice or in your daily life if the skincare matters for you. So, how it started? I actually started to work as an educator. I started as a massage educator in the early 90s. And I love this work unexpectedly. I was very young, but I really loved to teach people how to do massage. Even not professionally, even if it was only for the family to help children to grow, to help the loved ones, to help the uh the members of the family when they have some small trauma or something else. And after when I started my way in the beauty industry, I am a medical doctor, but I specialized in the dermatology and in cosmetic safety later, and I understood then we missed the professional education. Because me personally, I struggled to find the right information. First of all, the information about skincare ingredients was extremely important for me from the very beginning, because for me it was very important to understand how skincare formula, how skincare products can interact with the skin. But we live in the era when we didn't have internet or social networks. So I simply went to the library and I did my research with real hard copy books, and I had just been writing everything by hand in my notebooks. That's how it all started. And later, when I started to work more and more in the skincare industry, I was invited first as a cosmetic safety expert and after as a medical educator to provide the training for beauticians in many countries of the world. I educated beautician in Taiwan, actually, many times traveled to Taiwan and really loved the island. I educated beautician in Japan for the very big chain of aesthetic clinics, very famous one. I educated beauticians and been speaking in conferences in Australia, and also in Scandinavian country, in my native Estonia, in Baltic country, in Ukraine, France, all the other European country, United States of America. I'd never been in Africa, actually. It is an only continent when I never teach beautician. But I'm still young, so I hope that one day maybe I'll do it as well. But everywhere where I went, I noticed then we are all very similar. All of us, beauticians, skin practitioner, aesthetic nurse, aesthetic doctors, they care deeply about their clients and their passions. And everyone is so hungry about the real knowledge. And people are looking for knowledge, not for the next fashionable protocols. So it's paradoxically then when we didn't have all this endless source of information, the education was even easier. Because you know we've got trainers, we've got some professors, we've got professional educators, and all information that we've got for the education we found in the real books. And we created this training box. So it was we created this printed materials which we used for beautician training. Now we have absolutely endless sources of information. I don't know if there are a lot of people who still use printed books, but I know that we have a lot of online courses, a lot of beauty school offering the training and the education program online and offline. But also we have YouTube, we have Instagram, we have Facebook, Threadsex for Twitter, and also TikTok. TikTok now is become the main source of information for a lot of people who are interested in the skincare, including beauticians. And very often I am just listening a lot of the hearing a lot of the question about TikTok trends. Most of them they are not serious, some of them they are dangerous, but they are still. And why I am still so passionate about education? My background is medicine, and I moved to the cosmetic safety field and the research development field quite early. So it probably happened at the beginning of the 2000s. And I saw that beauticians and aestheticians and other skin practitioners, they are working directly on people's skin with very limited access to the independent scientific knowledge. For me, it was always impossible to separate the practice and the education because I never could say here is a product or here is a facial treatment, here is a machine, energy assistant device, whatever. Just follow the step, do what I tell you to do. I wanted people to understand why it will help them, why this product is right for your skin, why this treatment is what you need right now, why I will incorporate some machine in this treatment. And over the years I worked a lot with professional laboratories, I worked with a brand, and I've been uh for some period of time the head of international training in the big Swiss laboratory, CELAP laboratory, producing products under the brand Cell Cosmet. And also I worked as a medical consultant for Talgo Laboratory in France. I loved both of them. It's like a first love. But my role it was mostly the education. I took some not very big part in the research and development of products, but I created protocols, I created printed materials, I created methods and chronology for professional treatments, and I traveled extensively. One year I spent more than 200 days traveling around the world and teaching beauticians. So I've been in the front of the room full of professionals. Sometimes they've been doctors, sometimes they've been beauticians, sometimes they've been just members of public who have been interested to know more about some products. And I've been explaining not only what we recommend to apply on the skin, and not only how we apply products in the professional setting, but also how the skin will respond, what ingredient can do on the skin, how this ingredient interacts with the skin and with each other, and how we can keep clients and patients' skin safe while helping them transform the skin and look better and feel better after using the products and after having an experience with some professional treatments. For me, teaching was always one of the most meaningful parts of my careers. And it is still is. It was never an add-on, it was never something I did occasionally. It was very central, and it still is the center of my professional practice. That's why I do this podcast. And that's why I decided to go further and to create this whole program of the online education. I did it many years ago, and now I do it again. And what is very interesting for me is then I worked, as I mentioned, I worked in more than 30 countries over the world. I've been speaking English and French and Ukrainian and Russian with beauticians, and also my education was translated to many languages when I didn't speak the language of the country. But during the training, and especially in the coffee breaks and lunch breaks, I couldn't resist to feel then it feels all the same. I don't feel like I am in the different country, I meet different people. Yes, these people speak in different languages, but we care about the same thing. We think about clients, beauticians love to share stories about their clients, and sometimes it is very funny. And stories are very similar. Clients in Japan and Norway, they have the same interests, and our work is very international. And also I saw the same pattern. When practitioners, when beauticians receive a good education, their practice is absolutely transformed. It's not only about the success, the practice became more meaningful, more thoughtful, the consultation became shorter, but more precise, and results became predictable, reliable, the clients are more happy, and they have a lot of people who come to them by recommendation. That's why I never stopped teaching. And that's why I think that the good professional education, it is the heart of quality work in our industry. In the theory, there is more education than ever. We have conferences, we have congresses and workshops and seminars, brand academies, paid master classes, unpaid master classes, lives on Instagram, lives on Facebook, TikTok expert, YouTube channel endlessly, podcast, including this one, The Skin Villy Fame. But if you look closely, the quality and independence of the education have not improved, if I may say, with this quantity. Actually, to be honest, I feel like the quality is worsened. Why? First of all, I think that happens because of the phenomenon of the white noise. The white noise, which is just a white noise of information. It is repetitive messages which are very simplified. And they appear again and again when you go to socials, when you go to some conferences. You should shorten your messages. Try to explain how niacinate works in one minute, because it is the best choice for youth. And honestly, I cannot do it. It's just impossible. I don't know how I can explain the mechanism of action of niacinamide in one minute or in three minutes because it is complicated, it is very interesting, and niacinamid is one of the most amazing ingredients which we are using in skincare right now. But when I created the episode of this podcast about vitamins and niacinamides shortly, I've been speaking about niacinamid, I think about 15 or 20 minutes. And it was just a surface. I didn't tell everything what I wanted to tell. So this white noise, it's really leading the industry. And brand-led education dominates. I know how that sounds. I am the founder of the skincare brand. And brands are offering free training certifications, they create beautiful events, they invite influencers and practitioners and public to this event. And that's very fun. We actually don't do it. It's a lot of investment. And I prefer to organize conferences for musicians. We don't do real big events for influencers or something like this, because being an independent brand, it's meaning then you are constantly struggling with your budget. And actually, it is understandable why brands are focusing on the product. Because it is a business. But if your entire educational diet consists of the branded content, you miss a lot of important things. You don't get the full picture, you don't get the clinical perspective, you don't get to the chance to ask is it really the best way for my clients? Is it protocol safe? It is rational for my practice for long term. And I have some doubts about the conferences as well. I love conferences. I've been speaking first time in the conference, actually, it was the La Nouvelle Esthieque uh Congress in uh 1998. That's my first time when I was a speaker on the stage, and I loved it a lot. Since that I've been speaking hundreds of times on different congresses and different countries over the world. But I remember when the first time I was told by organizers of the conference that I am only one non-sponsored speaker in this conference. It was in 2008. And at the time it felt so strange because I always seen conferences like some source of the independent, not so commercial information. But it started to change, and I didn't fully realize how unusual it was in 2008. But over the years I understood then it was a sign of what was coming. Independent speakers have become rarer. And now many conferences and many congresses in our industry, if we're not speaking about academia, about real scientific programs, if not 100% of speakers, but sometimes 80, 85, 90% of speakers, they are sponsored by brand. So it's very difficult to provide people with an independent, clear information when it should be focused on the brand interest. And from the outside, I suppose it might sound like a minor issue of the beauty industry. But from the inside, as a practitioner, it is serious. Because imagine you are beautiful, you are working hard, you are seeing many clients, you are busy, you have the schedule back to back, and you're trying to keep up with all these new ingredients, new methods, new trends. What is in acid? What is why the resin now is so restricted? So you probably ask, where do I go for honest science-based education? That it's not the brand pitch. You go online, you encounter a lot of noise, advices are conflicting, claims are super dramatic, uh, there are a lot of fear-based education, there are a lot of fear-based messaging, some miracle solutions, and some uh content crafted very often with the help of artificial intelligence. So many professionals they tell me now that they are very overwhelmed by the situation. Not because they don't care, they still care. But to find the education which is worth to spend time, I don't even speak about money and the energy investment in the education. It's so difficult because this signal, the white noise, the ratio, it just it's so wrong. So we have this paradox. We have more education than ever, more marketing than ever, more sponsored content than ever, and in the same time, it became so much harder to find calm, independent, applied science which you can be useful for your daily practice in the skincare. And that respects the intelligence of the professional, which is not hardly simplified, like until the message: this is a good molecule, this is a bad molecule, this is a good bacteria, this is a bad bacteria. That's not so such things as a good and bad in the science, actually. So it is the core problem. And that's why I decided to create this project, the skin active longevity education, which is uh I created 10 webinars, which I am planning to offer for free on the monthly basis from this August until the May of 2027. I built my brand, MEDER Skin Care, around microbiome addressing ingredients such as prebiotics and probiotics, around peptides, and around longevity-focused, safety-driven formulation. And my wine, Midare Skin Care, now is recognized by thousands of practitioners in more than 30 countries over the world, and I'm very proud about it. And uh even recently it was described as one of the cult independent brands by leading aestheticians of New York by Forbes magazine, USA. So actually, skincare, which I am creating, my formula and protocols, biofacials, it's uh it's how I see the applied science in the skincare. So for me, it's my transformation of the scientific messages. I'm trying to bring science to people. So So I'm trying to really incorporate the latest scientific discovery, the latest scientific knowledge into something practical which you can use to get your skin healthier and to feel better. So, yes, obviously, I will talk about MEDAR products in some formal program. It would be dishonest to pretend then I'm not planning to do it, I will. But it will take probably about 20% of the whole time, because the primary purpose of the MEDER education is larger than any brand. I want you to understand how to pick up ingredients, how to create individual protocols. And if you don't work with MEDAR, okay, you can do it with other brands as well. Despite as a brand founder, I will be very grateful if you'll be interested in the brand and if you uh will work with us one day. So for me, uh this education program is created to provide you applied skincare science to debunk some harmful skincare myth and to bring skin active longevity science into daily practice. We should not speak about anti-age anymore. We should not be aggressive to the skin anymore. In the last 20 years, we have this new knowledge base which changed the paradigm of skincare. And it changed medicine, and it changed skincare and cosmetology and aesthetic medicine, everything. So I will try to bring this applied science to skincare practitioners, to beauticians, aestheticians, aesthetic nurse, aesthetic doctors if they are interested, and obviously to skincare enthusiasts. I think that we should be open for everyone. And I believe that people who are really interested in the skincare, skin intellectuals, they if they are looking for the information, it should be open to them as well, even if they don't have any license or diploma. Knowledge is everything. So when I say active skin longevity, I don't mean anti-aging as a marketing work. I mean that we should understand the skin as a living organ whose aging can be influenced by many different factors. I've been speaking about it in my podcast for months. Now I think you have enough of episodes about active longevity and everything. And you if you've been listening to them, you understand better now how inflammation, microbiome disbalance, microcirculation changes, hormonal shifts, stress, circadian rhythms, literally everything affects our skin. And there are many external factors, obviously, which uh affect our skin as well. But active skin longevity is my lens. It is a way to obseeing your client not just as someone with wrinkles, but as someone whose skin health and aging trajectory, we can support intelligently. We can create the whole strategy because it can be an active longevity program for people suffering from acne. It should be specific active longevity program for people suffering from rosacea. We can create active longevity skin program for someone who is genetically predisposed for the skin dryness and so on. And we can help people at all ages, all genders, and all skin types to help their skin more individually. So, my response to this noisy educational landscape is not to add more noise. I don't want to do it. My response is that I created a structured, free, long-term program. We will get 10 deep dive sessions over one year, and we will take one topic at a time, and we'll look to this topic through the lens of skin longevity and practical application. So I really want this webinar series a place when you can breathe, think, learn, ask any question when come to your mind. Do not be in pressure to buy anything by the end. And without wondering if the next slide it would be the sales pitch. It would not. I'm not really good in sales anyway. So, how will it look? It called Active Skin Longevity, and I will start it on the 17th of August in 2026, and I will run this program monthly until May of 2027. So it will be a 10 session. Everyone, I'm planning to get to 40-45 minutes, but if you are listening to my podcast, you know me. Probably it would be longer. And each one will be focused on the some key dimension of the skin health, longevity, and our practice, what you meet in the real practice. And at the each session, we will get question question and answer session at the end. So it will be I am planning to go for 40-45 minutes of my lecture and 15-20 minutes of QA question. But if listeners have more questions, we will stay and I will answer all of that at the best of my knowledge. So the format is simple, online webinars, host it on Zoom, deliver it in English, and also we will register the video. So if your schedule is difficult, you can watch or rewatch this material later afterwards. So how we begin? The first webinar I'm planning to do about the consultation to create the strategy for every one of clients. I think it can be useful for skincare enthusiasts as well, even if you're not practice, if you don't have license, and if you're not planning to become a beautician. But uh it is one of the most useful webinars, probably, for beauticians and skin practitioners, because I will explain how to make the full diagnostic during the full consultation, literally to create the skin passport. It was a technique which I developed when I worked in my clinic. It works really well from the practical point of view. It is amazing. So it's based partly on the Professor Leslie Baumann method of the skin typing, skin diagnostic, but also I'm including different scales like Loram Misery scale of the skin sensitivity evaluation, Macy scale for pigmentation evaluation, and the MERC scale for wrinkles evaluation. So at the end of the consultation, you have everything evaluated, all aspects of the skin health. And based on this knowledge, you could create the whole strategy to pick up right treatments for the skin. I will advise what types of meta biofacials you can use, but this knowledge helps you understand how to pick up the right treatment if your practice is linked to some other products. And so I hope to help you to understand how to think in algorithms and most importantly, how to monitor progress and how to integrate all types of professional treatments in your practice in a rational way, without guessing which can be good, which can be not. The second webinar, which I'm planning to perform in September, will focus on the daily care for active skin longevity, minimalistic but very intelligent daily skincare routine, how it looks like, what types of ingredients you need to create this daily skincare routine, how to choose longevity-related ingredients, what is the trend, what is the marketing, and what is the real science, and how to avoid overwater the skin while still supporting the skin resilience. Because this nine steps, 12-steps routine, I'm sorry to say it, guys, are just not realistic. Most of the people they don't have time and they don't have an energy to follow these routines on the daily basis. So I prefer to stay minimalistic in my practice. If you want to expand this routine, it's still possible. But the most important thing, it creates the foundation, it creates the basis of the skin care after. I will devote the full session to the skin sensitivity because it is really important and it is increasingly common, and it's very often misunderstood. I am speaking about sensitivity in the scientific conferences for many years, including microbiome congress, microbiome conferences around the world. And I suppose I found the way to treat efficiently skin sensitivity based on the scientific knowledge and scientific understanding of the basis of the skin sensitivity. Why we need it? We need to speak about the role of the nervous system in the skin aging, the neurogenic information and protocols. So we really need it because we live in the era of the mental health changes. And our world is so overwhelming. So it's kind of understandable why we have more and more people with sensitive skin. Also, I will be speaking about the inflammation as a driver of the aging, and it includes the chronic acne and chronic rosacea. So that would be two related webinars: sensitivity and inflammation, rosacea and acne all together. So we will explore all signs about chronic low rate inflammation, signs of acute inflammation, how it can increase aging process and accelerate aging process, and how it helps us to treat acne versus longevity strategy, how to think beyond short-term suppression of acne and aggression. Also, I'm planning to speak about deformational aging and the role of microcirculation. So the changes of facial and neck contour, and it's one of the very common concerns a lot of people that are coming to sounds, they are coming to clinics, asking help to restore face contour. So we will speak about it. And we will speak about non-invasive methods, including machine draining methods, which we can use to help people with this type of the facial changes, age-related facial changes. Also, that will be a webinar about skin dryness, age-related changes of hydration. And obviously, it needs its own session because the question is large. It's not only hyalunicacid or some oils you can use. There are a lot of things. And I will go for webinars about wrinkles because we have many types of wrinkles. I will speak about the pigmentation. It would be the separate webinar about pigmentation. That would be a separate webinar about circassian rhythms. So stay with us and I will show you the work. I hope you love it. And each of these topics, it can be treated as a single webinar if you want it. But I really hope then you will not do it and you will see it as a part of the current professional framework. I hope that by the end of the year, for the next summer, you should feel you have a more integrated way of thinking about your client skin or your own skin. It would not be the collection of tips and life hacks. Obviously, I will speak about some tips and life hacks, but I don't want it to get just TikTok-based collection. I want you to get your own system, your own strategy, which will help you in your practice. And if you are not professional, it will help you to care about your skin, this much better understanding what you're doing and very probably spend much less of money. So if you want to finish this series or webinar, I hope finding it, you will be able to identify the problem, but you will be able to find the way to create the strategic personalized plan for yourself or for your clients and your patients, to based not only on one thing like on collagen loss or on the inflammation or the microbiome, but on the whole spectrum of everything affecting your skin, including 12 hallmarks of skin longevity, but also all these external factors affecting your skin in the same way. So it can be kind of skincare fun with a long-term health in mind. You may ask why I do it for free. And uh yeah, it's a lot of work, 10 substantial sessions, and uh every time when I prepare the presentation, it's not like 30 minutes. I never recycle my presentation and I never do my presentation with the help of the AI. So it will take time. But I'm really to do it because honestly, I want access to good education for everyone, for beauticians who are working with me their skincare products, for beauticians and other skin practitioners who work with other products, but maybe one day they will be interested in our products as well. For everyone working in the industry and also for skincare enthusiasts who want to know more about skincare, about the skin and about ingredients. And I think the access to the good education should not be limited by financial investment. It should be limited by your curiosity. And now, Coursera, it is a very good example. They're providing us with a lot of free education. Unfortunately, it's a minority of people who are really using it until the end. But who knows, maybe my series of webinars will be the first one which you will finalize. And also I know that many of beauticians, many of aesthetic nurses, and they're struggling to find investment for an education. And uh I just I I really want to help everyone, especially for practitioners in the country which are living under stress, under economic stress or political stress, or countries undergoing the war. And beauticians and skincare practitioners are working very hard and have limited resources in every country of the world. So I don't want to create a barrier, and also I love educator. So that's my decision for this year. I will do it. And also, let's not pretend that education and our industry and skincare and beauty, everything exists in the vacuum. We live in the world when some people need not only education, but also shelter, food, medical care, protection from violence, or even war. And so this uh my program of 10 webinars, Skin Active Longevity with MEDER. It is a part of the program which we create with MEDER Ukraine office. Simultaneously, I will do the series of webinars in Ukrainian for Ukrainian speaking beauticians. And for these webinars, I decided to link this free educational program with an opportunity for people to donate for the foundation called City of Godness or Mr. Dobra, which is located in the west of Ukraine, city of Chernevtsi, in Ukraine. It is an amazing foundation, it's not very big one, but the City of Godness is a shelter and social service center that supports women and children in the most difficult life circumstances. They protect them from domestic violence, homelessness, poverty, and the obvious consequences of the war. So Mr. DuBras, City of Godness, they offers housing, food, medical care, psychological support, legal help, practical education, and it is entirely free of charge with no state subsidies or anything. So I believe if we can support such great cause, so it can be great. I will be happy if my educational program will help to such a great foundation to work a little bit more freely. That's for me, that's a natural connection between caring for the skin and caring for health and caring for people. If you have benefited from the free education and want to say thank you, you can do it by supporting mother and children who need much more than skincare. The donation is absolutely optional. I will not check it out. There's no controls, no obligation. But I really hope then our participants of our educational program will consider it. We will put the link of the charity font Mr. DuBra City of Godness to this podcast episode, and obviously you will find it in all materials related to the active longevity program. So just to summarize thing, who is this educational program for? Beauticians, aestheticians, cosmetologists, whatever you call yourself, skin practitioner, aesthetic nurses, and even doctors if you want it of any experience level. And also it is open for serious skincare enthusiasts who want the science-based information of skin longevity. You do not need to be using meta products already. You do not need to get some clinic size or any other limitation. If you care about your skin, if you care about your clients, you are welcome. So I suppose you will gain three main things. First, it is a quality, the clear way of thinking about skin through hallmarks of aging. Second, you will get practical tools, so diagnostic algorithms, which you can use in consultations, treatment strategy you can adapt, product frameworks which help you build smart routine and do not create this endless shelves in your practice. And third thing, and probably the most important one, it is an independence. The confidence to evaluate claim, protocols, trends in the critical way. Critical thinking. So you will be less dependent on noise and more guided by the science and you experience. So my intention is in each webinar, you will get at least one or even more concrete things and concrete changes you can make on your work the very next day. So every month you can bring some transformative changes in your practice and refine it better and better without hurry up to do everything at the same time. So it would be an applied science for your daily practice. So if you feel that current educational landscape is too noisy, too commercial, too fragmented, and not ideal, try this program. I hope you will love it. It would be a more quieter, focused space when we will stay together. To join, you simply register by the Google form. For the active skin longevity with MEDER, we will leave the link for this Google form in the podcast explanation. And also you can visit the website MEDERBeauty.com when you will find the page MEDERECATION and you can register us through this page. We start on the 17th of August of 26th, but you can join us anytime and get registered video, and you will get reminders, you will get recording, and you will get a digital certificate of attendance if you want it. I will be there personally. I will uh lead this program myself, I will prepare the presentation and do all webinars and ask for all questions by myself. I am bad in delegating and I never delegate education. It is something which I care and something which honestly I enjoy. So, if you want to be the part of a community of professionals who still value science, integrity, and long-term thinking in skincare, I would be honored to see you in the Active Skin Longevity webinars. Join us, follow podcast, follow our Instagram, and discover more. Thank you for joining us today on the Metter Beauty Podcast. If you found this helpful, be sure to subscribe so you never miss an expert skincare tip. Have a question or topic you'd like for me to cover, send me a message at podcast at meterbeauty.com. And let's keep the conversation going. Also, you can visit MetherBeauty.com and discover Mether Skincare which I created. And if you enjoyed the show, I'd love if you left the review. It helps us refine the podcast and keeps us growing. Until next time, stay healthy, stay going, and take care of your skin.